Recorded live at Frieze Masters 2023 in London, this new podcast series features artists Arlene Shechet, Sarah Lucas and Rachel Whiteread, curators Sheena Wagstaff and Valerie Cassel Oliver, and Gus Casely-Hayford.


This October, dunhill partnered with Frieze Masters to bring the much lauded Frieze Masters Talks back to the fair for the first time since 2019. A celebration of cutting-edge perspectives on art from antiquities and Old Masters to icons of the 20th Century, the Frieze Masters Talks were curated by Dr Nicholas Cullinan, Director of the National Portrait Gallery, and brought together artists, writers, curators and directors to explore the connections between historical art and contemporary practice. Hosted within dunhill’s auditorium at the fair as well as at the home of dunhill in Mayfair at Bourdon House and the National Portrait Gallery, we now bring you the illuminating conversations in a new podcast series.

Episode Eight – Gilbert & George & Nicholas Cullinan: On Context

‘Sex, death, race and religion’ – these are the topics that the London-based artists Gilbert and George announced they wanted to cover in this talk with Dr Nicholas Cullinan of the National Portrait Gallery. Episode Eight: On Context offers insights into the artist’s relationship to concepts: from sculpture to the city, ‘picture making’ to posterity.

Episode Seven – Mandy El-Sayegh, Flavia Frigeri & Valerie Cassel Oliver: On Interiors

In Episode Seven: On Interiors, artist Mandy El-Sayegh talks to Dr Flavia Frigeri of the National Portrait Gallery, and Valerie Cassel Oliver of the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts about the relationship between inner and outer space: the space of the studio and the space of exhibition and how art displayed connects to an artist’s inner life.

Episode Six – Rachel Whiteread & Briony Fer: On Space

The year 1993 marked a watershed for the famous Turner Prize, when it was awarded for the first time to a woman, artist was Rachel Whiteread. In Episode Six: On Space, Whiteread is in conversation with the art historian Briony Fer. Together they discuss the urges and concerns that underpin Whiteread’s work, from seminal works of the 1990s to her more recent projects.

Episode Five – Gus Casely-Hayford & Thomas J. Price: On Power

In Episode Five: On Power, Dr Gus Casely-Hayford, the inaugural Director of V&A East is in conversation with London-based multidisciplinary artist Thomas J. Price. Together, they reflect on how monuments created for the public realm are not just aesthetic objects, but artefacts often bound up in values, ideologies, and power systems.

Episode Four – Arlene Shechet & Sheena Wagstaff: On Studios

In 2023, Frieze Masters fair sought to break the artist’s studio open to a new audience, curated by Sheena Wagstaff – the Met’s Chair Emerita. In Episode Four: On Studios, Wagstaff talks with Arlene Shechet, exploring how central the place and space of making is to her work, as well as its significance in the realm of creativity.

Episode Three – Tim Walker, Jerry Stafford & Nicholas Cullinan: On Photography

On Photography asks what it means today for an artist to work with a living, breathing icon, like the actress Tilda Swinton. Tim Walker, the noted artist and photographer is joined by his long- time collaborator, stylist Jerry Stafford. Dr Nicholas Cullinan, Director of the National Portrait Gallery, London, moderates.

Episode Two – Shirin Neshat, Jamie Fobert, Nicholas Cullinan & Tim Marlow: On Display

In Episode Two: On Display, artist Shirin Neshat is in conversation with Jamie Fobert, the architect of London’s newly reopened National Portrait Gallery, and its Director, Dr Nicholas Cullinan, moderated by Tim Marlow, Director of the Design Museum. Neshat reflects on her 2018 portrait of Nobel Peace Prize awardee Malala Yousafzai.

Episode One – Maggi Hambling, Sarah Lucas & Louisa Buck: On Rebellion

In 2005, British artists Maggi Hambling and Sarah Lucas met at the historic Colony Room Club in London’s Soho. There, they discovered that they shared the same irreverent and unapologetic attitude. In Episode One: On Rebellion, chaired by Louisa Buck, these two British artists discuss their influences, facing up to mortality and being each other’s muse.

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Dr Nicholas Cullinan is the Director of the National Portrait Gallery in London. His career has seen him in curatorial roles at some of the world’s most important cultural institutions, including the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and London’s Tate Modern.


Tim Marlow serves as the Director and Chief Executive Officer of the Design Museum. His career journey, from historian to arts and culture advocate, has uniquely positioned him to shape the museum’s mission.